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Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.09 05:45:00 -
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Barbara Nichole wrote:Minerals mined outside of high sec are generally used where they are mined.
[citation needed] "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread[" |

Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.09 10:23:00 -
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Herr Hammer Draken wrote:I am thinking the fix for null sec industry might be to get rid of the jump freighter.
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In fact then industrialists would become a valuable asset in null and something that could be attacked to wipe out your opponents manufacturing ability. Something to fight over in null as a strategic resource.
The problem of nullsec industry isn't one of demand, it's a problem of a near-complete lack of industrial facilities with no way to rectify it. There are single systems in highsec that have more industrial capability than entire nullsec regions. Until that gets fixed in a big way, any other changes are wasting time.
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Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.09 10:47:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Even that is not really right.
The biggest problem is the fact that NPC facilities crap all over player run ones. Be they Outposts or POSs. It they are player built and run they should crap all over NPC ones..
That's exactly what I was saying - outposts in sov null are complete **** and end up with key aspects split (manufacturing slots in Amarr outpost, refining in Minmatar, research in Caldari) with far fewer slots than your average highsec station.
The way to fix it doesn't need fancy modules or new mechanics - it needs outposts changed to have significantly higher slots, more meaningful upgrades, and sensible layouts (no more splits between stations). You're right in that they need to be better than highsec - not only because of the general idea that player built should always be better than NPC, but because each system can only have one outpost or station. "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread[" |

Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.09 10:58:00 -
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Herr Hammer Draken wrote:.Often it is already built in null and reprocessed in empire already for the mineral content.
I love these "highsec people talk about nullsec" threads, they always bring out the best nonsense. Still waiting for something to top "moon mining bots" though. "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread[" |

Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.09 20:10:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Welp, I cannot speak from personal experience, but the logic seems sound.
"Welp, I have no idea what anyone actually does in null, but I've arbitrarily decided I know what they do with their minerals!"
generaldiscussion.txt right there "Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread[" |
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